[SI-LIST] Re: PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable" error with Hyperlinx 8.2
- From: "Jiang, George Q" <george.q.jiang@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Ken Cantrell <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "balaseven@xxxxxxxxx" <balaseven@xxxxxxxxx>, "epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx" <epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:30:19 +0000
Here is Mentor's response;
SR #: 2468331137
SR Description: LineSim combines Power Net with GND
To view or update your SR, click here:
http://supportnet.mentor.com/servicerequests/detail.cfm?SR=2468331137&snw_source=EXT3B
DR/ER #: 00884269, Prior DR/ER #:
DR/ER Description: Power nets are connected and will be combined to single net
message in LineSim decoupling wizard
DR/ER Status: Postponed
(For definitions see http://supportnet.mentor.com/help/er_request.cfm)
DR/ER Customer Note: Review Queue: Not included in the functional themes for
the next release. The next review cycle is scheduled for end of Q3 2012.
Planned Release: Not Scheduled
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Cantrell [mailto:ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:26 AM
To: balaseven@xxxxxxxxx; epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mfilion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Jiang, George Q; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
manojkumarc@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable"
error with Hyperlinx 8.2
Has anyone contacted a Mentor AE? Perhaps they are aware of the problem, if
it exists, and have a fix.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of bala
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 8:42 PM
To: epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mfilion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; george.q.jiang@xxxxxxxxxx;
si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; manojkumarc@xxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable"
error with Hyperlinx 8.2
Manoj,
Did u try this in cadence...if u get same error while using cadence
also,then u ll come to know where the problem is...use sigrity otherwise...
-bala
On May 10, 2012 5:57 AM, "keithK EPD" <epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This is definitely a bug in translation of the *.hyp file you may be able
> to edit this text file in a way which is a close approximation of what you
> desire....obviously , a circle is not right
>
>
> Keith Kowal
>
> www.product-designs.com
>
>
>
> > From: george.q.jiang@xxxxxxxxxx
> > To: mfilion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; manojkumarc@xxxxxxx
> > CC: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable"
> error with Hyperlinx 8.2
> > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 17:37:15 +0000
> >
> > I have had same problem with HyperLynx. It is a defect of the tool.
> >
> > George Jiang
> > Delphi Electronics & Safety
> > Kokomo, IN 46902
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Marc-André Filion
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:28 PM
> > To: manojkumarc@xxxxxxx
> > Cc: 'SI-LIST'
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable"
> error with Hyperlinx 8.2
> >
> > Hi,
> > I've recall having an issue with some special shape for mechanical
> retention. I had a net0 that was shorting the power and GND in the
> hyperlynx database. The board shape was a little special and the
> translation convert it into a circle. This circle shorted many net
> (including power and GND). I had to remove net0 from your .hyp database.
In
> my case, Hyperlynx was just shutting down.
> >
> > Maybe you should look at all unusual stuff on your board the could short
> your power together.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marc-André Filion, ing
> > Concepteur Matériel / Hardware Designer
> > Brioconcept Consulting Inc.
> > 450.681.2779 x2368
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Manojkumar Chidambaram - ERS, HCL Tech
> > Sent: 9 mai 2012 13:04
> > To: SI-LIST (si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] PI simulation "unrecoverable and unidentifiable"
> error with Hyperlinx 8.2
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am helping out one of my colleague for decoupling analysis with
> hyperlynx 8.2. When tried simulating in boardsim few of the rails (1.8V,
> VDD1, VDD2
> > rails) in the board reported an error pointing out that the error is
> "unrecoverable and unidentifiable".
> >
> > The same power rails when exported to the Linesim had problems with
> different nets merging together reported as "Net 1.8V and GND are
connected
> and will be combined to single net "GND_1.8V"
> > But as per layout this net is clean.
> >
> > Is there anyone faced similar issue, please share your thoughts. Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Manoj
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