[SI-LIST] Re: OT: Job Opening at Wipro Technologies - an opinion

  • From: "Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <John.Hill@xxxxxxxxxx>, <heyfitch@xxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:24:32 -0600

Scott -
Can you grab me a cold one while you're up?  I've just made a fresh batch of
popcorn:

All -
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

Bigotry and racism have to be constantly monitored so that they don't escape
their cage.  It's an idea woven into the fabric of U.S. political thought
when our nation was born.  Are we good at it?  Not very.  But we're better
than most.  When you encounter it, protest it and defeat it.  Check yourself
out.  Make sure you're not one.

I contend that political issues have no place on SI List.  I find that very
refreshing, a sanctum from the madness.  If you want to be politically
active, use venues devoted to that.  I certainly do.  E-mail your
congressperson and ask their position on outsourcing, form watchdog
committees, actually use the politcal system as opposed to complain about
it.  Setting up an "SI-LIST-POLITICS mailing list" would be a good example
of a watchdog service.  However, on SI List, post a link, not an opinion.

A robust exchange of *technical* ideas is the very cornerstone of the List.
Sometimes tempers flare.  That is to be expected, but it is the exception
not the rule.  Behave like a gentleman.  Be academic about all issues
discussed on the List.  Keep personally derisive and/or political comments
off-line.

Got that beer yet?

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hill, John
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:16 AM
To: heyfitch@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OT: Job Opening at Wipro Technologies - an
opinion


People,

There have been many nationalities integrated into the fabric of
America. But there are those that would rather blame their troubles on
someone else. The argument goes something like: Those damn... fill in
the blank of your favorite immigrant ... are ... fill in whatever fear
you have. There is a long list of immigrants to blame our troubles on.
Get over it or fix it. But stop complaining about it on the SI-LIST.

In America immigrant are welcome by anyone that takes the time to
remember our history. Personally my mother and Grandparents came from
Scotland when my mother was a teen. So am I an immigrant taking an
American's job or am I an American? Please don't answer that.

What I do know is that we need to outsource some Layout in Expedition
and SI work for a new design. We don't care if you are from Bulgaria or
India or Indiana. You just need to know SI and help us adapt SI
technology to be used in an automobile. And yes you will be in a
competitive competition for the work.=20

We are putting multiple 500 MHz processors with DDR2 memories into an
automobile as part of an Active Safety System. Please contact me
privately if you have the skills. But don't contact me if you want to
learn on my dime. I just interviewed an Indian company that had a great
sales pitch and no technical ability to back it up. It was a waste of my
time.

Best regards,

John

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-----Original Message-----

From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Vadim Heyfitch
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:22 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OT: Job Opening at Wipro Technologies - an
opinion

Recent or not, I will heed your point: I shall change my name in a
couple of
years, once I pass a 20 year mark of having lived in the U.S.
...and yes, there is also Canada :-) ... and Bulgaria (maybe ?)

On 7/10/07, Mikhail Matusov <matusov@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vadim Heyfitch" <heyfitch@xxxxxxxx>
> >
> > To Ray: I know this topic falls outside of the boundaries of a
purely
> > technical discussion.
>
> It increasingly looks as if the only way to stop this slide into
political
> flame is to set up SI-LIST-POLITICS mailing list.
>
> To Vadim:
> From your name I have very little doubt that you are a recent
immigrant
> yourself. I find it amusing how quickly people adjust their views to
the
> situation.
>
> > I find it particularly interesting how few subscribes of this list
have
> > voiced their opinion on this post
> The reason is simple: the majority respects the rules of the forum and
the
> request by the moderator.
>
> I would also like to remind to some of the active participants in this
> thread that there is much more to the world than just the US and
India.
>
>
> I will shut up now,
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Mikhail Matusov
> Senior Hardware Design Engineer
> Square Peg Communications
> Tel.: +1 (613) 271-0044 ext.231
> Fax: +1 (613) 271-3007
> http://www.squarepeg.ca
>
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