Paul, A shunt capacitance does not necessarily starts with a steep down slope and gentle upward slope, so I would not be surprised if it was a shunt capacitance. However, other things are possible, of course. The inflection points you are referring to may be a result of a small stub in a socket (if a socket is present in your test fixture) - for example the stub due to the socket pin going into the board. If you provided more details about your test fixture, or some information about the size of your dip in the TDR waveform, I could possibly offer more intelligent guesses :-). Thanks, =================== Dima Smolyansky TDA Systems, Inc. 4000 Kruse Way Place Bldg. 2, Suite 300 Lake Oswego, OR 97035 (503) 246-2272 (503) 246-2282 (fax) TDA's MeasureXtractor is the EDN Product of the Year Finalist! http://www.tdasystems.com/products/measurextractor.shtml ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Levin" <levinpa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "SI-List Reflector" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Mystery TDR Waveform > Dear All, > > I was wondering if someone could give me a hint as to what might > be behind an unusual bit of TDR waveform I've encountered. > > Hopefully if you use fixed type width the following will look oK: > > > xx x > xx x > xx x > xx x > xx x > xx x > xx x > xx x > xxxx > > The 50 ohm baseline is the starting value at the left of the > plot and the right end of the plot soars up to open circuit, > as expected since there is an open circuit at the far end of > this test fixture. There is something of an inflection point > on the way down where the slope changes; the break in my plot > is not the result of mis-counting with space bar. > > If the TDR started with a steep down slope and a gentle climb > I would not hesitate to call this a shunt capacitance, but > this behavior baffles me. > > Thank you in advance for any advice! > > Regards, > > Paul > > -- > Paul Levin > Senior Principal Engineer > Xyratex Storage Systems > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu