We have a Polar Tone Ohm 950 to help locate "difficult to find" shorts. And it follows similar principles as Steve describes. You attach 4 different colored wires to GND locations nearest the 4 corners of the board, and then you "probe" the power plane with the short in various locations with a 5th connection that supplies a low voltage current source. The test equipment then makes a "tone" and indicates a direction to move your probe (closer to the specific colored GND connection) until you "hone" into the short area. It might help you. http://www.polarinstruments.com/pdf/brochures/Toneohm_950_screen.pdf As they state in their brochure "it provides a non-destructive means of tracing short-circuits to their point of origin. The instrument offers four operating modes, which cover virtually all categories of hard and soft PCB shorts, including etch problems, solder bridges, stuck bus lines and faulty decoupling capacitors." Look it up online. And I don't work for Polar Instruments. Justin ============================================================ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ============================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu