Chris, The last two sentences weren't truncated. The reason to avoid tying logic ground to the Faraday cage in more than one place is to avoid providing a secondary path for current that should flow in the ground planes of the system, namely the skin of the Faraday cage. A common symptom that this has happened is that EMI seems to leak out of the box at the cracks. I am aware that many companies, including Cisco, tie logic ground to card guides and face plates. They often have a difficult time making the box pass EMI as a result. You don't need to tie logic ground to the case many places to control ESD. ESD is a relatively low frequency event that can be controlled with a band of copper around the edge of the outer layers of a PCB that is tied back to the backplane only. Hope this helps. Lee > [Original Message] > From: Chris Padilla <cpad@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 3/1/2004 4:56:29 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to connect Chassis ground to DGND > > At 01:54 PM 2/29/2004 -0800, Lee Ritchey wrote: > >I've watched this one from a distance. I'm not sure what the objective of > >tying logic ground to "chassis" ground. There are at least tow possible > >reasons. > > > >1. To meet the UL safety specification. > > > >2. To help control EMI. > > > >In the first case, logic ground doesn't need to be attached to the chassis > >ground to do this. The chassis needs to have a good connection to the > >green wire that goes back to earth in the AC system, > > > >In the second case, using the word chassis when discussing EMI confuses > >things. In this case, the product is surrounded by a Faraday cage, which > >likely has parts of the chassis as sides. If this is the situation, it is > >important to make sure currents that belong in the logic ground system > >don't have an opportunity to flow in the Faraday cage. This can happen if > >logic ground is tied to the Faraday cage in more than one place. Symptoms > >of this happening are the complaint that EMI is "leaking" at the cracks. A > >common error is to tie the backplane logic ground to the Faraday cage > >around its periphery (Good Idea) to form one side of the Faraday cage. > >Then, the faceplates of the PCBs or their edges are also tied to the > >Faraday cage. (Not a good idea) > > Lee, > > I'm curious about the the last two sentences above...I hope my truncation > of the message doesn't hurt the intended context.... > > You say a "common error" is to tie the BP periphery to the cage to form one > side of the Faraday cage but then say it is a good idea. I'm confused here. > > The last sentence states that it is a bad idea to tie the PCB board edges > and faceplate (presumably on a carrier tray) to the chassis or Faraday > cage. Why is that? We often do this to protect against ESD but I must > confess that I haven't tested any of my boards in a situation where the PCB > edges or carrier tray (faceplate) haven't been attached to the Faraday cage. > > Thanks, > > Chris Padilla > EMC Engineer > Cisco Systems > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu