[SI-LIST] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: trouble simulating with AC coupling capacitors in topology

  • From: Chockalingam Selvaraj <chockalingam.s@xxxxxxx>
  • To: Ralph Wilson <ralph.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:37:38 +0530

Either run the simulation for longer time (in the order of millisecond / micro 
second)
or replace the capacitor with a equivalent low valued resistor {Xc = 1/ 
(2*pi*f*C).}

The first case takes longer time for the simulation to end... and if you want 
to measure eye pattern, you have to run normal simulation, figure out the 
settling time and skip those many bits in plotting the eye.(check the eye 
pattern set-up)

Thanks and regards
Chockalingam.S (Ck)
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Ralph Wilson [ralph.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:49 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Fwd: Re: Re: trouble simulating with AC coupling capacitors 
in topology

We ran a number simulations a few years back looking at this capacitor
charging issue. In the end we found that simply replacing the caps with
zero ohm resistors (with parasitics similar to the caps) resulted in
nearly indistinguishable results once the caps settled down - with the
exception of the DC offset.

Ralph
Alcatel-Lucent

On 7/8/2011 6:40 AM, steve weir wrote:
>  By hook or by crook you need to get your capacitors charged to their
>  nominal operating potentials.  The Cadence user group, or your FAE are
>  the best bets for getting Cadence specific help with that task.
>
>  Steve.
>  On 7/8/2011 4:24 AM, Roopesh Badala wrote:
>>  Hi All,
>>     I am trying to simulate a topology which has AC coupling capacitors in 
>> it.
>>
>>  Using Cadence Allegro PCB SI tool set , i am unable to get the expected
>>  output.
>>
>>  but when I simulate the same topology by removing the AC coupling capacitors
>>  in signal path, I get a perfect waveform.
>>
>>  Is this a tool limitation..? can some body suggest me if they have faced
>>  similar issue.
>>
>>
>>  Thank you
>>
>>  Roopesh
>>
>>
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