Hi LIU, the answer was already given in your first link of the SI-List. It all depends on what and how you are comparing. Just use an Impedance calculator and check both options for your Project with the given restrictions in Stack-up, material, Layer count, EMI rules... and then you will find the best solution. One thing you should keep in mind is the impact of vias. If aou are able to route the signals without using vias, then Microstrip has advantages. If your Chip is a BGA and has vias anyway, then stripline should be the best option as no madditional vias have to be used. BR Gert ---------------------------------------- Absender ist HARTING Electronics GmbH, Marienwerderstraße 3, D-32339 Espelkamp; Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bad Oeynhausen; Register-Nr.: HRB 8808; Vertretungsberechtigte Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Kfm. Edgar-Peter Düning, Dipl.-Ing. Torsten Ratzmann, Dipl.-Wirtschaftsing. Ralf Martin Klein -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Luping Liu Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2014 08:25 An: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [SI-LIST] Stripline vs. Microstrip selection Hi All: I have a few 4 inch 25Gbps channel on my board,the design requirement is the lowest total loss first, and if possible , use hybrid stackup to reduce the cost (M6+FR4), but I am not sure if we can use microstrip to get lowest total loss, some different view points are found : 1.For the same trace width and copper thickness considerations,stripline results in less signal attenuation compared with microstrip. http://www.altera.com/literature/an/an672.pdf, figure 10 . 2. Stripline more lossy than Microstrip. //www.freelists.org/post/si-list/Stripline-more-lossy-than-Microstrip,2 //www.freelists.org/post/si-list/Microstrip-vs-Stripline,6 3. Microstrip have more impedance variations 8_FR1Paper_MovingHigherDataRateSerial Designcon2014 My question is : qs1. Why they have so much difference at IL@ 12.5GHz? if radiation loss play the role, does it have a knee freq which the microstrip loss over the stripline? qs2. Consider the via loss , is it better to use microstrip to get lowest loss for this <4 inch channel (all use 8mil width)? Thanks and Regards, LIU Luping ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu