[SI-LIST] Re: AW: AC coupling capacitor

  • From: Shiva Jilla <jillashiva@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cyril.chastang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 08:22:43 +0530

For more information you can also refer to the Application note below:

http://support.cadence.com/wps/mypoc/cos?uriÞeplinkmin:DocumentViewer;src=wp;q=ApplicationNotes/Silicon-Package-Board_Co-Design/AC_CouplingCap_SystemSI.pdf


Best Regards,

Shiva



On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:35 PM, CHASTANG Cyril <
cyril.chastang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Scott,
I agree, it is a common rule. It depends on how big the impedance mismatch
is (size of the footprint, number of vias, length of the via stubs, ...)
and the ratio between the data rate and the edge rate. The impact on the
eye diagram could be negligible.

Best regards,
Cyril

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Envoyé : mercredi 13 mai 2015 16:51
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Objet : Re: [SI-LIST] Re: AW: AC coupling capacitor

Cyril

It is an oft repeated myth that a DC blocking capacitor should be placed
near the receiver because of signal edge rate.

A serdes channel is a linear LTI system. Where the capacitor is placed in
the channel with respect to the driver does not matter. What does matter
is how well the capacitor transition is designed, how low a reflectivity it
is, and whether it is placed near other channel discontinuities.

Regards

Scott




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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:33 AM, CHASTANG Cyril <
cyril.chastang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cyril.chastang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hi Mo Han,
If your channel is on the same board, it is better to add the AC coupling
capacitor near the receiver in order to minimize impedance mismatch.
Indeed, rise/fall time are bigger near the receiver due to the loss of the
channel and so, the signal spectrum will be narrower.

BR
Cyril

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It doesn't make much different as long as it is on the same Board. For
pluggable Cannels each standart requires the Caps to be in a special
position (IEE: Receiver side; PCI: Transmitter side).
BR
Gert


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Hi experts:
I found some design place the ac coulping capacitor near the receiver,
others place it near the transmitter, which design is better?
Thanks!
Mo Han


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