[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V4 #1051
- From: alfredo pumariega <pumagsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:58 -0800 (PST)
Ann, some of us are not blessed with handling talent. As much as I love to show
my dogs myself I would never show one competing for points, BOB etc. in a large
show. I have been threatened with bodily harm by my very own friends in the
past if I showed my own dog in certain shows...LOL! For me investing in a
handler is a wise investment. But I do admire those that have God given
ability. It has to give you extra satisfaction.
Al Pumariega
Miami, FL.
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Subject: showgsd-l Digest V4 #1051
showgsd-l Digest Tue, 27 Feb 2007 Volume: 04 Issue: 1051
In This Issue:
#1: From: Dawn Restuccia <windwych@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: puppy mill auctions
#2: From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: CA AB 1634
#3: From: "L. Hartten" <hartten@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: nipping digging in the bud
#4: From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
#5: From: VSabiaB@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
#6: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Subject: The "new" AKC Microchip
#7: From: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
#8: From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx
Subject: Dog News article
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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:10:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Dawn Restuccia <windwych@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: puppy mill auctions
I had a long talk with a rescue who gets puppies out of the hands monsters at
the dog auctions. She informed me that they go in and buy as many as 400 dogs a
week...that these dogs have been whipped, beaten and have no desire to live.
She bought a purebred GSD male last week...there was a dog and a bitch on the
auction block. She could not afford to buy them both, but got the dog for
200$...the bitch went to an obvious BYB for $400. She did mention that the
majority of the dogs are medium to small, as they can make more money with them
tho there HAVE been GSDs in the past.
There have been many breed clubs who show up at these auctions and buy their
own dogs in order to keep them from falling back into the hell on earth of the
mills...Because she does not want to anger some of the mills who voluntarily
GIVE them their dogs that they no longer want (one recently gave her 190
dogs...these would have gone to auction; the owner of the mill had health
issues and the facility was in decent shape; dogs well fed and socialized tho
obviously too many)..she tries to keep out of the limelight.
Her message is for the purebred dog clubs to pull their own breeds, thereby
keeping these unfortunates OUT of the hands of the mills and BYBS. There are
1,100 puppymills in Missouri...they are looking for Goldens (to produce
goldendoodles, probably since you dont need licensing for mixed bred dogs)
and Standard Poodles...the more I delve into this thing the murkier the waters
get.
Dawn Restuccia
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Msg: #2 in digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:17:11 -0500
From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: CA AB 1634
Forget it...I got to the site by pasting..........thank you, Paul.
Peggy
Peggy wrote:
>Is it possible to have the entire link? That just doesn't
>work.............and I can't find it off the site it does get to..........
>Peggy
>
>RivendellP wrote:
>
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>
>>Hi all...below is a post from Patti Strand of NAIA.
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Msg: #3 in digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:36:15 -0700
From: "L. Hartten" <hartten@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: nipping digging in the bud
On 2/27/07 9:52 AM, carolyn mckenna wrote:
> I have heard that (disgusting as it sounds ) if you bury some of
> their own feces in the area, it discourages their digging there.
I've heard that too, but it's not a good choice in this situation.
For one thing, she loves to eat dog poop :P and for another, dog feces
are supposed to be kept *out* of gardens & compost piles. I've heard
this is because there are viruses that dogs can carry & people can catch.
> Also,
> when you plant something , be sure you wear gloves. They seem
> to hold out hope that even though you have gone into the house, since
> your scent is on that plant, you might just be under thare somewhere.
Hmm, that's an interesting thought. I wonder if that's why her
favorite yard game is "scatter all the gardening gloves & knee pads
around the yard"?
Cheers,
Leslie
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Msg: #4 in digest
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:33:43 -0800 (PST)
From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
Jessica, the main reason most owners can't show their own dogs is because of
the need for. doubling handling and they don't have the athletic ability
required to run long and hard after their dogs at the end of a 10 foot lead in
the specialty show. If you have that ability and your dog will perform without
doubling and if he is good enough, you can compete and win in the specialty
ring. There are many specialty judges that will put up the best dog, not the
best handler. After using a junior handler for many years I know who most of
them are. Owner-handlers can compete more successfully in the allbreed ring as
baiting and coming and going seems to be more improtant to the all arounders.
Ann
PS I owner-handled a bitch I owned to Grand Victrix, so I know it
can be done.
Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Everyone -
As a person who is new to GSD, but not to show dogs, I am wondering what
everyone's opinion of owner-handlers is. I come from a breed that is
predominantly owner-handled and we are quite successful too. I have NEVER
had a problem competing against handlers... but..... my question is....
Why do most people send their dogs out with handlers in GSD? Is it
tradition, is it the *ego* thing, is it because there is an art to showing a
GSD and most owners don't have the time or the where withall? Can *good,
experienced* owner-handlers who have trained and conditioned good dogs win
easily? What about at Specialty shows? How do most judges feel about it?
If you don't use owner-handled dogs - what is the most typical reason - lack
of condition? training?, etc?
Every curious (and just waiting to hear about the Hunte vote)
JessMac
Paisley Dals (and two GSD)
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Msg: #5 in digest
From: VSabiaB@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:38:31 EST
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
In a message dated 2/27/2007 2:30:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
As a person who is new to GSD, but not to show dogs, I am wondering what
everyone's opinion of owner-handlers is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes, you do need a handler if your dog doesn't show well for you and
especially in the Specialty rings.
BUT if you have a good dog, that dog shows well for you and you show under
the right judges, "YES" you can WIN and finish them to their Championship!!
Have someone video you handling your dog and then watch it, this is the key!
Also ask other GS people what your dog looks like with you at the end of that
leash. Then have a handler gait your dog so you can see if there is a bigger
difference.
GOOD LUCK!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Vicki (owner/breeder/handler) till my knees quit!
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Msg: #6 in digest
From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:43:17 EST
Subject: The "new" AKC Microchip
There is some excellent discussions going on in "PetLaw" about microchips
right now. One of the recommended lists that will take you WAAAAY over the
top
in emails. I suggest Digest if you join.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law
Stormy Hope
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Msg: #7 in digest
From: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:59:56 -0500
I have an excellent handler (hubby)
If he would stop injuring himself thinking he's still a pro soccer player
uhhhhhhhhhh..........
Everytime I need him he's laid up!!!!!!!
Now I have a soon to be 9 year old in training :o)
Amy Safdir
Almanya Shepherds
www.almanyagsd.com
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From: <VSabiaB@xxxxxxx>
To: <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Owner Handlers in GSD
> In a message dated 2/27/2007 2:30:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> As a person who is new to GSD, but not to show dogs, I am wondering what
> everyone's opinion of owner-handlers is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Yes, you do need a handler if your dog doesn't show well for you and
> especially in the Specialty rings.
> BUT if you have a good dog, that dog shows well for you and you show under
> the right judges, "YES" you can WIN and finish them to their
> Championship!!
>
> Have someone video you handling your dog and then watch it, this is the
> key!
> Also ask other GS people what your dog looks like with you at the end of
> that
> leash. Then have a handler gait your dog so you can see if there is a
> bigger
> difference.
>
> GOOD LUCK!!
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Vicki (owner/breeder/handler) till my knees quit!
> Von Charisma German Shepherds
> http://members.aol.com/VAbby17801/VCGShepherds.html
> It's not HAVING what you want, it's wanting what you HAVE!!
>
>
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Msg: #8 in digest
From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:05:02 EST
Subject: Dog News article
I hope those of you who get DOG NEWS read Sari Brewster-Tietjen article on
our Hunte mess. She's very good,careful about names but abhors the idea of a
Breed Club allowing someone like him in. Again,still not using names,she talks
about the AKC Delegate,who is also a member of the GSDCA Board,making the
statement that Hunte has done more good for the dog world then the AKC. She
then goes on to list all the good things that the AKC has done for the world
of
purebred dogs, ending that she really questioned the statement made by the
AKC Delegate .Interesting reading- with AKC Board elections just around the
corner
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