[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V3 #1162
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- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:49:14 -0400
Thank You Iza !!!!???? FloB
Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:59:03 -0400
From: Iza Kabuska-Ackerman <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IS IT FAIR
So what else is new ????????
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showgsd-l Digest Wed, 20 May 2009 Volume: 03 Issue: 1162
In This Issue:
#1: From: Richard Lortie <richard.lortie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: IS IT FAIR
#2: From: "DIR" <Dir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Futurities..... again
#3: From: "sally" <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [CHGSD-L] IS IT FAIR
#4: From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IS IT FAIR
#5: From: murfamx4@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SHOWGSD-L ] ...the National?
#6: From: Iza Kabuska-Ackerman <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IS IT FAIR
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Date: Wed,
From: Richard Lortie <richard.lortie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: IS IT FAIR
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Last weekend in London Canada,they held a show,17 entries,
Kent Boyles showed up showing a male under Elen Migliore and many people
knows that he showed Elen's dog,EJM N`Eko-Lan Eli, in the States last month
he showed him at the central Indiana show and went winners dog and then at
the southwest futurity and went BOF,
Elen Migliore gave Kent winners dog , best of winners and best of opposite
in London this weekend
Can anyone tell me if this is legal? we all know that it is unethical and if
we knew it before we showed under her ,we would not have shown our dog.
now we know why entries are getting lower,ten years ago the entries at this
show were over 60 and next year they will lower that this year......
Richard Lortie,Andrew Tesiorowski,
www.lacomtesse.ca
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: "DIR" <Dir@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Futurities..... again
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:23:26 -0500
YUP-----I AGREE. Sandi
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From: "Sally Hayden" <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
To: <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities..... again
> No I no longer participate in f
uturities but I am concerned about the
> clubs
> giving them and the shows in conjuction with them. How do they plan ?
> when
> you could loose a good part of your entry. We all know that 30-40% of the
> entries are absent at a futurity. Now add the switch hitters and wow -
> what about the poor clubs hiring judges, planning food extra - 10 days
> notice isn't going to help them much
>
> The thought of seeing more clubs go under is devastating
>
> sally
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: "sally" <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [CHGSD-L] IS IT FAIR
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:35 -0500
Guess you would have to contact the Canadian Kennel club for an official answer
to that but unofficially I bet we all agree with unethical
Sally
www.embroiderybysally.org
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Msg: #4 in digest
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:33:15 -0700
Subject: Re: IS IT FAIR
From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
Sadly Richard
It is this very type of thing that is driving not just newcomers from the
breed, but long time fanciers.
People justify such things by
saying "well it isn't against any rule...."
and yet the very look of impropriety,
and some "connection " between handlers and judges is what is so disturbing,
and off - putting.
We have gotten so tired of this type of behavior from certain clubs and
individuals that we will no longer support clubs that allow/encourage this
to go on. We don't support clubs or individuals known to be so cavalier
about APPEARANCES of impropriety, esp when it seems to happen to the point
we can call who will win , weeks before entries close, under given judges.
We don't suggest our clients support them, either.
We have seen conflict of interest , here in the states over the last couple
of years, with I believe now two judges being barred
from judging a National or Futurity for the next four or five years.
Perhaps we need to start making more of an issue about it? Or maybe filming
and "You tubing" a judge showing a complete lack of either knowledge for the
rules, or ethics, might change things.... Perhaps if people think they
will be held up to scrutiny by the fancy, or having names published in BIG
print in the breed magazines , when they are suspended.....just maybe they
will think twice.
Until then,these things do go on...and it casts a bad light on the breed and
the sport., and it is KILLING entries. Sad to say.
Kathy Tank
http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com
~or~
http://www.germanshepherdssocal.com
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CH. Victory's Leviathan
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Msg: #5 in digest
Subject: Re: SHOWGSD-L ] ...the National?
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:56:15 -0400
From: murfamx4@xxxxxxx
They are also building a huge parking lot and a massive RV parking area with
every slip having its own power and water supply.??According to Purina they are
expecting 2 and maybe 3 more motels all within 15 min of the Show site. ?If a
National that is the same place every year is the question this c
ould easily be
the answer.
?? I know that this has been talked about before because I was BBQing at the
Futurity when the GSDCA board was huddle aroung the pit and were talking about
the possibility.? We do have a different Board now than we did then but it
still
has to be an idea that has not completely dropped.
-----Original Message-----
From: DIR <Dir@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: murfamx4@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SHOWGSD-L ] ...the National?
THIS SHOULD BE SO VERY AWESOME!!!! All events at the same location and so many
motels within 15 minutes to the site?
It could not be any better!!!! Sandi----- Original Message ----- From:
<murfamx4@xxxxxxx>?
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>?
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:03 AM?
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SHOWGSD-L ] ...the National??
?
> Purina Farms has already broken ground for there new arena as well as more >
outside show sites.? Once this is completed I think the Nationals should > be
held there every year.? Gray Summit MO is just about as close to the > middle
of
the country as we could get.? All the events can be on the same > property and
dependeing on the weather could be held inside or out.?
> Glenn?
> Shaden Shepherds?
>?
>?
> -----Original Message-----?
> From: TISHW@xxxxxxx?
> To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?
> Sent: Tue, 19 May 2009 4:53 pm?
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Virginia...the National??
>?
>?
>?
> In a message dated 5/19/2009 3:53:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
> edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:?
> spent some time in the state of Virginia!.....in?
>?
>?
> Well, you were lucky! Jamestown is interesting and fun. For our family?
> reunion this year we're taking the kids there. But up here in?
> Fredericksburg it's some Revolutionary War (bet you didn't know the > streets?
> downtown are?
> all named after the King of England's children) but mostly Civil War. 4?
> major battlefields nearby so lots of history. And Virginia is a > beautiful?
> state.?
>?
> Tish?
> **************
Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in?
> the U.S.?
> (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)?
>?
>?
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Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:59:03 -0400
From: Iza Kabuska-Ackerman <izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IS IT FAIR
So what else is new ????????
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lortie" <richard.lortie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] IS IT FAIR
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> Last weekend in London Canada,they held a show,17 entries,
> Kent Boyles showed up showing a male under Elen Migliore and many people
> knows that he showed Elen's dog,EJM N`Eko-Lan Eli, in the States last
> month
> he showed him at the central Indiana show and went winners dog and then
> at
> the southwest futurity and went BOF,
> Elen Migliore gave Kent winners dog , best of winners and best of
> opposite
> in London this weekend
>
> Can anyone tell me if this is legal? we all know that it is unethical and
> if
> we knew it before we showed under her ,we would not have shown our dog.
> now we know why entries are getting lower,ten years ago the entries at
> this
> show were over 60 and next year they will lower that this year......
>
> Richard Lortie,Andrew Tesiorowski,
> www.lacomtesse.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or
> FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the
> original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
>
> ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY
> MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS
> PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY
> FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBI
TION WILL
> BE PROSECUTED.
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