Because if they have a black nose (extremely rare ), they are a serious fault. If they do not have a black nose, they are a DQ. Carolyn ________________________________ From: "barbara17236@xxxxxxx" <barbara17236@xxxxxxx> To: marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: removing the DQ for white......... And, here is another issue with the AKC GSD approved Breed Standard: . "Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers are serious faults." So, if blues and livers are DQed because of the black pigment issue, how can they be a serious fault under color? Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 3:22 pm Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: removing the DQ for white......... And, I am sure they can find judges to put them up, if the dog is structually the best in the ring. They're technically DQ based on color (if you're not talking about Pandas) since it is genetically impossible for a blue or liver dog to express black pigment -- Jackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German Shepherds S Konzert vom Drachenberg, CD, RN, CGC, SD "Strauss" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================