[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: rawfeeding ..... Carnivore feed suppliers list

  • From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: grnram415@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT)

But using your logic, a wolf pack should be just as happy meeting their 
nutritional needs by grazing in the fields as they do from eating the stomach 
contents of a herbivore. Problem is, a wolf can't digest grass because it is 
not a omnivore.  I'm not arguing that wolves need more than protein in their 
diet (Canivores thrive on protein but it is not their only nutritional need) 
however they get what they need by eating the entire kill (stomach, organs, 
hooves, hide) not from munching on tree bark or sampling local plant life.   
   
  I know that this argument about dogs NOT being canivores has been floating 
around for years, and I know it's just a belief not a scientific fact.  I have 
nothing against nutritionists, but I think I'll stick to the biologists on this 
one.
   
  Cindy
   
   
   
   
   
   
  grnram415@xxxxxxx wrote:
    Cindy,
   
  Do you know what an omnivore is?  Vegetarians are freaks.  I am basing my 
info on the dietary needs of animals.  A true carnivore needs only meat to 
survive.  And omnivore requires vegetation as well as meat for a balanced diet. 
 An herbivore requires only grasses and grains to survive.  A vegetarian is a 
freak of nature and is not a natural order.  Wolves are NOT true carnivores.  
They eat the stomach contents first for the grasses and then the meat.  Where 
do I get this?  Well, I have been involved in animal nutrition for about 10 
years.  I have attended seminars and even pre-vet nutritional classes that have 
confirmed these findings.  I work with raw feeding vets as well as holistic 
vets.  They feel the same as I, that the diet must be balanced based on the 
species of the animal.  If you wish to disagree, so be it.  If you want your 
dogs to be total carnivores, that is your choice.  I am just throwing out MY 
ideas for people to consider, based on my education on the
 subject.  
   
  Laura Thomas    
   
 
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Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: rawfeeding ..... Carnivore feed suppliers list
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}          What are you basing your info on? Vegetarians like to say dogs are 
omnivores, which is why they feed their dogs only  vegetarian based dogs foods, 
but since a dog is a direct descendant of a wolf and wolves are indeed 
carnivores not sure how that is possible.  Bears are omnivores because they are 
just as happy eating berries as eating meat and if you've ever baited a bear 
you know that it is not meat but sweets that they are attracted to.  
   
  Dogs can eat fuits and vegetables, but they thrive on meat/fat (protein) and 
you will never have to protect your garden from a bunch of  meandering wolves.  
   
  Carnivores- 
  Carnivores are animals belonging to the Order Carnivora. The Order Carnivora 
contains 7 families and about 250 species. This group of animals includes dogs 
and their relatives, bears, racoons, mustelids, civits, hyenas, aardwolf, and 
cats.
   
  Cindy
  cinosamgsd.com
   
  
grnram415@xxxxxxx wrote:
  Ok, that just hit on my pet peeve. Dogs are NOT CARNIVORES!!!!!!!!!! They are 
omnivores, just like humans. There are very few true carnivores in the animal 
world. These include cats, mink, hyenas and a few weird rodent things we don't 
have in North America.

As Paul stated, in the wild, a dog/wolf, whatever, will go for the gut of an 
animal first. This is for the grasses the herbivore has ingested. Then they 
will go for the meaty parts and small bones. This is why we add veggies and 
fruits to the animals diet. To make it balanced. A meat diet alone for a dog is 
not a balanced diet, therefore, they are not carnivores. Feeding raw is no 
different that feeding your family a balanced meal. 

JMHO

Laura Thomas 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: rawfeeding ..... Carnivore feed suppliers list

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/CarnivoreFeed-Supplier/

Carnivore feed suppliers provides a list of what they have to offer people who 
feed their carnivores a natural raw diet. Pet owners list their needs.
This is a fully moderated list.

This is not a list designed to discuss raw diets. For more generalised 
information about the raw diet, please go to the general raw feeding email 
list. 

Disclaimer: All messages posted to this list are solely the responsibility of 
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