I take getting out of dogs as meaning..getting out of dogs..not at shows..not on the List..not judging..and most of all not trying to discourage people from the being interested in the sport. Now one can be part of the problem..or part of the solution..I read posts from breeders who have been actively breeding..or are still actively breeding...they complain about costs of handlers. traveling, etc..I know one that stand s out in my mind..that is always complaining about something...bad dogs..cost of handling...yet they sold enough puppies to put them in a higher tax bracket....and yet they complain about the costs??? Several "experienced" breeders again complain..there is no movement..no good dogs..just slugs..well, then go breed a good one.what's stopping you?.if a person has been in this game for 30 years..they should have at their disposal the knowledge of the breed and experience to be able to do that..again..not only will you breed a good one..but one who costs very little to finish. As I stated earlier...2500.00 will give you about 15-16 shows..yes if you want to go with the dog..it may cost more..if you want to board the dog for 6mos..that will cost about an additional 1800.00 or so for 6mos. If you have a good one..it can finish in 15-16 shows..if you have a good relationship with your handler..and you don't jump from handler to handler..every time you don't feel like you are the "priority"( to me you have to earn the right to be considered a priority)..then you can developed a rapport with the handler..and most will allow you to make payments..also if you have a really good one..handlers will encourage others to breed to the dog..also helping to curb the costs. In the past I too have complained about escalating costs...but this past National..I came away with a different perspective.. I watched Bart and Cindy ex dogs early in the morning...and late at night...giving each time to have "play" time outside...instead of sitting back and letting them do all the work..we helped..walking dogs back and forth to the van..passing out food bowls..and taking care of our own dogs..even the ones they transported for us...whatever it took to make the job easier for everyone. all of this work behind the scenes is rolled up into the cost of handling..Again..showing a really good dog...showing the dog when he is ready to be shown...developing a rapport with your handler...can all be cost effective...you should be able to finish for about 2500 plus 6mos of board..or your own travel expenses. Or you can spend 5000-6000 showing a dog in 30 shows..who really shouldn't even be shown...again..you can be part of the solution..or part of the problem. C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <Danannkennel@xxxxxxx> > To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 1/8/2005 3:28:45 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: lack of movement > > > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:21:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, > hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > You did > say you were getting out of dogs..you have said many times in front of many > people. > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > And I have not shown a dog in 2 years.- you are a bit behind > > Sally > > The House of Nasdaq ROM > Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex > > http://danann.netfirms.com > http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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