I had a set of animal encyclopedias many years ago - 16 volumes (burned in my house fire) I devoured the info about dogs especially. Something that was most interesting was on that very subject. It referred to easy training, devotion, loyalty etc. However, what you mention below is something seemingly uncanny about our breed. It cited the smarts of the Poodle & the Golden & Lab but these 3 breeds plus others mentioned, are so loyal and devoted they'll rarely deviate from their training, where it has been proven many times a GSD will when the person under their care is in some kind of danger and has no idea but the dog balks at their orders -- thus, often saving the life of the person. Why they'll not be used any longer is not a good idea in my book. Some of mine have been service dogs for handicapped as well as the blind etc., but, yes I remember the organizations did start to breed their own way back there. Sad if this is true. Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Utter" <utter227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "showgsd-l Org" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] guide dogs I would want a dog that would use "selective disobedience" if necessary i.e. crossing a street and finding an object in the way or some other danger that the blind person could not be aware of and the dog refusing to go that way. Is there any other breed that would be like this? Would most GSDs be like this? Anne, TN ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================