wow! wonder how his name came up after so many years being off the list? maybe someone saw that beautiful male he and pat bred in the review? some of you should wish you'd known someone who cares about the breed as much as he does. once his friend, he'll be your friend, but don't cross him and don't lie. frank loves his dogs as does his wife pat who has been the breeder and owner of the dogs for a long time now. they screen their puppy buyers and have told many to take a hike. their dogs are not outside in any kind of weather 24/7 i'll bet many others on this list have dogs out in kennels all day and night, eh? they don't just sell with out asking questions of prospective owners. because one breeds more than someone else does not make them a puppy mill. i believe one of his dogs was lost by an akc show handler and the dog was hit by a car. the dog was not a youngster. yet he spent thousands of dollars to get him healthy again while he sat across the country at that vet clinic so he could bring him home instead of just saying well let's put him down it's cheaper! oh! and frank's old dogs stay until they die. if anyone truly thought they were a friend, send him a note and wish him well. he's a fighter and if anyone will win he will, but if you don't mean it don't bother. sure sounds like a few of you really do care so tell him you miss him and and that you care. someone else brought up that he was ill in his defense. i don't know that he wanted that public but since it was said, i posted the above on his behalf. susan www.sander-haus.com Home of Sander-Haus German Shepherd Dogs Quality West German Bloodlines ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================