[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: culling off-colors....

  • From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:10:32 -0400

       I think maybe some of you missed that I said it was a different 
breed, not German Shepherds. 
ALL breeds were established through culling.
Peggy
sheila lieberman wrote:

>The practice of culling imperfect is how this breed was started by von 
>Stephanitz.  I recall reading several times many years ago that he held the 
>breed to a high standard and the breed wardens of today in Germany are the 
>legacy of the breed's foundation.
>   
>  But we live in the US and we can choose to cull or not to cull.  I do not go 
> nuts when a newborn does not come up quickly.  But I had the patience to wait 
> for Sissy to learn to walk when I know some were thinking she needed to be 
> put down.
>   
>  She does just fine in her own slow thinking way.  But she will always be my 
> Sissy dog.
>   
>  And Bertha looked deformed for a long time.  He hip structure was higher on 
> one side than the other, her ribs were flat on one side and barrelled on the 
> other.  Now she looks like great foundation stock for a kennel.  
>   
>  Bucko always looked like he would rule the world.  But his pasturns never 
> went up.  The diagnoses of lupus explained that.  He is stable.
>   
>  sheila
>Laurie Pruett <pruett@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >I had a puppy born with 4 white feet an a blaze. Shocked the heck out of 
>  
>
>>me...she wasn't hard to sell at all, in fact she went to the nephew of a BIS 
>>judge. He had his choice of three, two black and tan bitches and the one I 
>>called "Bootsie". I told his Aunt she was an off color, no one cared and NO I 
>>didn't reduce the price either. But cull her...OMG never.
>>    
>>
>
>I, too, had a puppy years ago with white feet (never before, never since - go 
>figure). She was the first to go out of the litter. When I've had blues they 
>also have been easy to sell to good homes (one of my blue puppies went to the 
>president of New England Telephone). I can't bring myself to cull anything 
>that isn't "perfect" as long as the puppy can be placed into a responsible 
>home and live a good life. That includes the occasional elbow puppy (I do the 
>surgery, then give the puppy to a good home) and the occasional mega puppy - 
>as long as they can keep food down and are growing well, I give them to a good 
>home. (on spay neuter contracts, of course). 
>
>As far as I'm concerned, dealing responsibly and humanely with the problems 
>that can crop up in our breed is part and parcel of being a responsible 
>breeder. Off-colors are the least of any problem a breeder can have. And, as 
>to the OFA discussion, to me it is a tool to be used in selecting breeding 
>partners. I don't believe it should be used to eliminate animals from breeding 
>programs. The worse elbows I ever saw were produced by two animals with OFA 
>"normal" elbows. I've gotten terrible hips out of an OFA excellent bitch bred 
>to an OFA good sire. I've used a bitch with one hip that was OFA mild who 
>never produced a hip problem in her lifetime. I need to be informed as to hip 
>and elbow status when making breeding decisions but I don't need to be told 
>that the animal can't be used in my breeding program.
>
>Laurie Pruett
>Windy Acres
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