Then someone said they changed the formula, or one or two of the top ingredients and it went downhill Paul opines... And how could it not? 1st ingredient is Fresh Chicken By-products. NOT In order to "Extrude" a product to make a kibble the moisture must be removed. When that happens it becomes MEAL...the 4th ingredient on the panel. The 1st Fresh Chicken By-product meal doesn't even make the top 10 as it's over 50% in moisture. The 2nd ingredient is "Fresh Chicken"...NOT...and the reason is the same as the 1st... So...the 1st ingredient is corn and the 2nd is CBPM that isn't neccessarily the same as described in ingredient number 2. The AAFCO definition of CBPM is beaks, feets, heads, and feathers not to exceed 10%. Corn and CBPM as 1 & 2...yum...that's what I call quality protein. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================