Ok, according to the AKC release: Who is Eligible for Gch points: Dogs transferred to Best of Breed/Variety which according to their owners' records have completed the requirements for a championship but whose championships are unconfirmed( The showing of dogs whose championships are unconfimred is limited to a period of 90 days from the date of show where a dog completed the requirements for a championship according to the owner's records) Kay is correct and I was wrong: Winners Dog and Winners Bitch are not eligible for Grand Champion competition regardless of the circumstances. However, their winning BOB or BOS will not prohibit awarding Select Dog/Bitch to deserving dogs in the ring. So, my bitch will NOT get those points. Thanks Kay for pointing this out. It will take some time to get all this straigt, BUT, AKC did send out a pretty good explenation for Exhibitors & Judges. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus <bedkar@xxxxx> wrote: From: Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus <bedkar@xxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Yet Even more confusing To: elg440@xxxxxxx, "GSD list" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10:18 PM There is that little phrase that we see in list messages every so often. "Pending AKC Approval". Until AKC says that the bitch is a champion, she is not a champion, therefore, ineligible for Gr. Ch points. -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:04:32 -0400 > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Yet Even more confusing > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > In a message dated 5/19/10 3:02:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > tokaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > The WB at that show, who was also BOB finished with those points. > > > > > > Who makes that decision? Do you just ask? > > Evan Ginsburg > Asgard German Shepherds > http://www.asgardgsd.com/ > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > > > ===========================================================================> > POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > =========================================================================== > ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================