Kay I started doing titers over a dozen years ago, first on dogs in mid life, later routinely at 3. I was convinced by those results that the dogs probably didn't need another vaccine. I won't however wait until 9+ weeks to vaccinate a puppy and every companion puppy leaves here w/ 2 vaccines. I can honestly tell you we are seeing things (courtesy of dogs being brought in for rescue), that we never did before. I know you have heard of "herd protection" where those unvaccinated (dogs, people, etc.) are protected by the high number of people/dogs in a population BEING immunized. We are seeing this fail people when vaccines aren't given, outbreaks of measles and TB, and we are seeing it in dogs w/ parvo and distemper. I know people who have lost puppies that they waited to vaccinate or waited too long between vaccines to re-vaccinate (should not be longer than 3 weeks). To me, it's just not worth the risk. Dr. Dodds may have had a valid point about dogs not needing all the vaccines as adults, but lately IMO she's over the top. Her latest is that dogs don't need year round heartworm preventative and there is a handy-dandy map on her site (my state is listed as one where six months will do). Guess what? We are having above 50 degree weather in a few days. People are going to jump on THAT band wagon and we'll see more heart worm positive dogs. She wants to blame ALL ills on environmental factors and I'm not ready to follow her over that particular cliff. In fact, I've gone the other way courtesy of sick dogs being imported to my area for rescue. I now give a bitch I plan to breed an annual booster. I don't breed a bitch under 2 or over 5, and I do want their maternal antibodies as high as possible. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 1/8/2014 7:29:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, showgsd@xxxxxxx writes: I am just catching up on list mail as I was gone for a long weekend. I have always done titers since I first attended a Dr. Dodd's seminar in the late 80's or early 90's. But I always did the titers around 2 or 3 years of age after the dog had obviously had several vaccinations. Recently, I decided to do a titer on my young male, Magnum, when it had been a year since the last of his initial "puppy shots' that had been given by his breeder. I wanted to see what his immunity level was early on. I just received the results and according to the reading by my vet, he probably will never need another shot for Parvo in his life time as his immunity was so high. His distemper immunity was also very high and she would probably do another titer for that in about 7 years! So although titers are expensive, I will be saving a considerable amount of money by not having my vet give the shots so it all seems to even out in the long run. Of course, we have to do rabies every three years as required by California law and I do give kennel cough vaccinations about every 6 months as the dogs are going to shows so often. Hopefully in the near future, a titer for rabies will be allowed. I can't even imagine what I was doing to the immune systems of my early dogs as in some cases I was giving vaccinations every 6 months!!!! Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning GCH. Rohan's Reward ROM, TC, CGC,HT,RE,CDX, CHIC, DM normal "Strider" 80 BOBs - #5 & #6 GSD 2009 - 2008 BOB Eukanuba, 2009 BOS Eukanuba ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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