In a message dated 8/16/2005 11:58:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, pruett@xxxxxxxxx writes: > If we don't support clubs - whether we like the judge > in a particular year or not - our specialty clubs will die. Laurie that would be AWFUL... what a terrible thing to happen to a club. i know i am a little person in this big world , but every single time someone is talking about judges or handlers and entries down and all that... no one is doing any thing about it. Is it the AKC's fault for letting judges just do what they feel? Is it the fault of the rich and powerful who have the money to bully everyone? Is it the fault of us that just let this happen because we feel "there is nothing we can do"? We should not give any one the power to hurt this awesome breed. By accepting the behavior of these judges, we are letting them bring the breed down, is that what everyone wants to do? We do not have to accept bad behavior and bad people judging and handling! How can we, that love our dogs, fall weak to inexcusable judging practices??? Not referring to the FL issue, just " bad judging" in general. Of course those who are "winning' are not going to agree with all this... they will find ways to manipulate the statements and accusations by means of saying folks are bad losers, or their dogs just arent good and that they feel folks are jealous etc... Really, who feels brave enough to stand up and share how they feel they can help promote positive judging methods? I really dont have enough years in this to know about all that bad things going on and havent really viewed it first hand but i hear about it.... i do have a right though to expect better for my dogs and their future in this venue. And i do have a right to express my concern because i am the next generation after our great ones of this time have retired. Regards, Dawnmarie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================