[ SHOWGSD-L ] Type vs movement

  • From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:10:25 -0500

If I read the original post correctly, I believe it asked us which we 
PREFERRED, type or movement.  I don't believe it meant to the degree of 
type or movement.  i.e.:  it didn't mean if you preferred movement, the 
dog must have to be ugly, or if you preferred type, the dog didn't know 
how to move.  Both type and movement can be measured in degrees.  Beauty 
is in the eye of the beholder.  What one recognizes as beautiful, 
another might find very ordinary.  Maybe one likes a pretty plush coat, 
and another a hard dry dog.  Pigment would play a factor here as well.  
The standard calls for a "look of eagles".  Secondary sex 
characteristics should be strong......males looking like males, bitches 
looking like a bitch.  Nothing more gorgeous than a dog that walks into 
a stance and sets himself up.  LaMar was a pro at letting a dog do this 
on his own and all eyes were on that dog.

Now onto movement.  Our breed is a herding dog.....one who should be 
able to work.  There is nothing in my opinion more ugly than a GSD that 
pitter patters in the front and doesn't drive in the rear and has an 
ugly topline.   I don't care how pretty he is, if he can't move, than to 
me, he's not that attractive anymore.  Oh yes, standing next to you, he 
may be a gorgeous animal, but put him out in the ring and if he can't 
move, than he can't do what he was bred to do.  So IMO, you have a 
pretty pet.

I don't know how many of you had the opportunity to go upstairs and look 
at the photography that Miguel (I think that was his name) was 
showcasing.  He had taken the photography of the classes and the winners 
from each of them.  I went up there and looked on his computer at the 
pretty dogs and the moving dogs.  (Now ideally, we all want both and we 
as breeders should strive for this in our breeding program).  But may I 
say that SOME of the pretty class winners when shown in motion were 
doing what I truly find unattractive in the breed.  They were not 
reaching in the front or driving in the rear.  They looked boxy in 
motion instead of long striding with an easy flowing gait.  Pretty 
standing, yes.  Pretty in motion, a big NO! 

If you can order the DVD's that were taken at this years National and 
use your remote control and slow each dog down and watch them step by 
step, judge for yourself the motion of the dogs.  Ask yourself if a 
pretty standing dog that moves like a square box who pitter patters 
along still is pretty?  Oh and another thing which I heard a lot of 
applause for was when a dog held his head up high while in motion.  This 
is not the way a shepherd should move with his head held high.  I always 
thought his head dropped out in front of him to accomadate the shoulder 
opening and thrust from the rear drive through an iron back and 
topline.  Isn't the wither suppose to be higher................not the 
head held up high while in motion?  For all those who clapped for that, 
was it because it looked pretty to you? 

As I mentioned in another e-mail, I was overall pleased with the type I 
saw at the National, but movement leaves a lot to be desired.  And as 
someone else posted, movement isn't everything.  Nor is type!  We 
shouldn't be breeding for one over the other, but instead breeding to 
combine the best of our breed which is type AND movement.  It shouldn't 
be an either or!  Genetics is anyone's guess as to what to expect from a 
litter, and we all do the best we can.  However, I do not think we 
should be trying to concentrate on just one aspect of the dog and 
sacrificing the one for the other.  TEMPERAMENT, number one of course, 
but that wasn't part of this question.  Certain bloodlines have given us 
back the pretty breed type, but sorry to say, at what sacrifice to the 
movement of the dog?  And an excellent moving dog, is poetry in motion 
and is beautiful.    We as breeders can sometimes get so caught up in 
just the one aspect of the dog.  ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL      MY OPINON 
ONLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!   Barbara Galasso

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