This site appears to be selling dog statues.......I don't think they are very accurate. Go to the menu on the left and look at the GSD........ "brown and gray" and 'gray". The statue of the setter looks more like a "L iver Belton" or Tricolor English Setter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stormy V. Hope" <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> To: "evan Ginsburg" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> Cc: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 5:58:51 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Times they are a-changing I thought I hit “reply all,” if not, here: http://www.modelequus.com/joomla/content/view/603/472/ Storm On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Evan Ginsburg (Redacted sender " elg440@xxxxxxx " for DMARC) < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: Stormy showed me a picture of the spotted Irish. I have judged them in the past. Maybe Stormy will send it to the List. I don't forward anything. Evan -----Original Message----- From: Karen M. Carloni < kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To: showgsd-l < showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 5:26 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Times they are a-changing On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:39:01 -0400, Evan Ginsburg < elg440@xxxxxxx > wrote: >I was told they are about to bring back the spotted Irish setter. I heard >that after I judged them in ARBA. I was told that was in the original, then >removed from conformation. Are you puttin' me on??? <BEG> The only "non-conforming" color I have ever heard tall tails of is solid black or black with a very small amount of white on the chest, similar to what a lot of modern red Irish have today. I would have to go back ***years*** into my Setters-L discussion group to find the several conversations I remember from over the years about the mythical "black" Irish. If one would somehow appear in a litter today, after DNA checks to make sure someone didn't jump a fence, it would be considered a DQ fault and be quite the rare specimen. ;) >But, perhaps a setter person could let me know if this was true. I'm more of a setter person than a shepherd person. Do I count? <G> -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2015. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of both the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. POSTS CANNOT BE USED IN A COURT OF LAW. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== Stormy V. Hope https://www.facebook.com/GSDCA.LegislationAwareness https://www.facebook.com/CaRPOC.CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition -- -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -AKC Breeders of Merit - bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com