In a message dated 12/16/11 7:49:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: There are some professions that require more drive that we seem to see in the GSD rings. I am NOT saying that that extreme drive is right or wrong, I am simply saying the for the MOST part, the Conformation rings don't seem to have as much as some jobs might require. I do think we need to be honest with ourselves. We, generally do not want what our standard call for. Having said that, and raising my shields, let me explain what I mean. Our dogs are to be aloof. That means they are not to be friendly to strangers, and to stand firm when approached. That sounds great, but we do tend to enjoy a dog that warms to kids on the street, and will find a stranger interesting. We don't want a dog that sits in the kennel all day, then tears up the ring, or the sheep when let out. We want a house dog, we want a companion, and we enjoy the camaraderie of our dogs. With that in mind, we have the freedom to interpret our standard to allow us to have what we want, and still approach our standard. In some countries the dogs are bred to work, and are kept outside. Many countries would not consider having a dog live in the house with the family. That isn't right or wrong, just not our way. I love a dog firm in temperament, strong in will, willing to work, but also keeping my feet warm on a cold Winter's night. I don't believe that is what Max had in mind, but then again, he never talked to me. Not that there in anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================