The topic of all breed vs specialty rings seems to have lost focus to me.....big difference is some specialty judges also judge all breed shows so an all breed Champion MIGHT just be a specialty Champion as well.....big difference being knowledge of the breed vs beagle judge who may or may not know what he/she is doing or the little old men/ladies who want them standing very still and walking beside their handler or the judge who looks at faces and they are all out there!!!!!! Pick your judges wisely,inquire and learn.......then your Champion will be remembered as a Champion.......Merry Christmas Everyone Donna Jacot,ArDeJay ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================