Reading the posts, there are still some who are "confused" about the "standard," and illustration thereof. The Standard is a written description of what attributes, faults and disqualifications our breed should have. They are to be "x" number inches tall, "X" number height to length, number of teeth, etc, etc. etc.,that is the Standard. The illustration of the standard needs to reflect today's style of dog. Once again, today's "style" is the same "X" number of inches tall, "X" number height to length etc. Today's style does fit into yesterday's standard. Today's top bitches are more feminine appearing with more topline, and the dogs also exhibit more topline...all part of the old standard. ("The withers should be higher...") Like myself, Lee Brown, and several others have said...The illustration needs to change, badly. Helen Franklin ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================