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they are really put together correctly it will show immediately in movement on
a LOOSE lead. Many judges are very hands on, and I believe it to be a waste of
time except for checking teeth, testicles and tails. I have judges dogs who
looking like they could not move, and surprised the hell out of me. Go Figure!
While we are discussing movement, I believe proper conditioning is paramount.
To many are too soft and out of shape, and given the chance fall apart.
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On Friday, July 17, 2015 5:44 PM, Carolyn Martello
<marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Re: Test - GSD Structure & MovementHad a great week camping up in the Lake
Tahoe / Donner Lake area with family. Nothing beats theHigh Country in
California....with family, grandkids and kayaks! Sunburned, and tired.......
<G>
Sounds like a great conversation going on the List.... YAAAAY! GSD's and
MOVEMENT! AWESOME!
I'm not a judge and don't pretend to be a judge nor aspire to judge....but I
believe most GSD Show Breedershave very strong opinions AND KNOWLEDGE on this.
( it's what we do ) <G>IMO a good GSD moves correctly and beautifully and
athletically with noticeable length of stride and suspensionand power at any
speed. It can turn, accelerate, and navigate over any terrain with ease and
agility...and it OBVIOUSLY should be able to trot around a ring ...any
ring...with all of the above. To do this the dog must becorrect and balanced
with everything symmetrical and correct in its conformation.A really good
moving correct dog will catch your eye immediately....after that a judge just
has to decide what isimportant to them after they follow AKC protocol and look
at the details of every dog. Some will have a better head, feet, mouth,
hocks, etc.....but bottom line we have to decide what separates this Breed from
other Breeds when evaluating. IS it the head, IS it the hocks, IS it the
feet......or the total package of beautiful Breed typeand movement and
temperament.....?Let's be honest....some dogs look better posed than
others...but they are not necessarily the best movers. TheyARE often more
photogenic. The real and final test is in the actual strength and agility in
movement.....becausethat is what keeps the sheep under control with ease all
day long. If we just remember that one thing.... <G>IMO It has nothing to
do with horses.....although the same theory about correctness and movement
comes into play for our Equine friends.Carolyn
marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Hickoryhill To: blackhawkfarms214@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l GSDList;
edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Re: List Viability Test - GSD Structure & MovementTo
Paulette, I tend to agree with the judge you spoke with. I just had a
discussion with a breeder judge a week ago or so. He started discussing
angles, length of this body part or the other..and he was correct and I can't
argue with what he is saying, nor would I as he is a knowledgeable breeder.
however, I started laughing and said "Well, that fine what you say, but I just
look at how the dog moves, for me if the dog is built right, it moves right.
For some assessing a dog is about all the measurements, angles and such, for me
the approach is more "artistic" and less mechanical. To me, both ways of
assessing the animal are correct, and usually it is just that people evaluate
differently. In most cases, if you have a "good eye" for a dog no matter what
your evaluation method is, the cream usually rises to the top and the good ones
will hopefully win. C.Grainger--------------------------------------------
------ Original Message ------ From: Anno Domini To: freelist Sent: July 16,
2015 at Subject: List Viability Test - GSD Structure & MovementOk as a judge,
breeder and owner of Tennessee Walking Horses and American Saddlebreds... says
who? (That they are incorrect?). The walking horse move in a laterally based
gait. They do not trot. Essentially they have Two gaits.. a flat walk
and a canter. The running walk that the TWH was bred to do is an extension of
the walk. In saddlebreds. They are a trotting breed. While they are animated
and collected, they are not supposed to trot like those of a Hackney Horse.
The walking horse is built for comfort and a gait more "forward going". The
saddlebred is built for animation, brilliance and presence. You know this as
you breed morgans which today are no more than refined versions of the ASB.
Mike Now for the test... A couple years ago, I was sitting ringside with a
very well known judge. We were discussing conformation, specifically
angulation and movement. The judge told me that he rarely studies the
angles/conformation of the dogs he's judging; he only considers the dog's
movement. In other words, if the dog moves correctly, he must be built
correctly. Agree or disagree? Please discuss. Thanks, Paulette
