I may be missing something, as I often am. But, is it not the determination on these things up to the board, or in the absence of the board, the executive committee? I think the reason was to make sure committee heads don't make decisions without the club not being involved. Now, if it were up to me, I would let Helen do whatever she wants. But, I have known her for over years. (Put in your own number here). I have total faith in Helen when it comes to AOE, or anything else as far as that goes. But, it isn't up to me. What a good thing that is. I do think changes need to be done by a vote, not an opinion. Can I get a committee to appoint a panel, to nominate some members to consider that? Evan In a message dated 7/30/2014 12:34:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx writes: ......I have to wonder........ I'm sure that some will be unhappy that I shared this with you but my frustration is just over the top........Executive Committee ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================