My solution to the puppy mill problem: change the requirements on kennel size. As it stands, the minimum size of kennel is 6" longer and wider than the dog is long. That is nothing more than a crate. While crates are fine for temporary confinement, humane kenneling should reflect the size of the dog. IF the puppy millers had to provide say 8'x10' kennels for a dog the size of a GSD, or say 3'x4' for each toy poodle how many dogs would they be able to keep until they ran out of land? My solution to the dangerous dog problem: We all know proper training stops many bad behaviors before they ever get started. We also know Pit Bulls are a problem. While I know Staffordshire terriers (and the related breeds) can be wonderful pets, in truth its hardly ever, if at all, the "AKC" types that cause problems. I feel if you want a pit bull dog, or mixed pit bull (the lab/pit mixes are popular around here) then its justified in asking for permanent ID on the dog, and the owner must have completed two total obedience class programs (one puppy, one adult) and sit through a lecture on the consequences of dangerous dogs. If not, no license and no dog. and No, I wouldn't like to see German Shepherd owners, or Rottweiler owners ect. have to do this, but its better than outright bans, and if its too much trouble then maybe you shouldn't own the breed. I realize many will see this as opening the door for other breed restrictions, and I know we would have to be vigilant. The problem with enforcing dangerous dog laws is the dog is given a chance to bite before he is stopped, although there is much that could be done with enforcement. I am not one of those types who think there ought to be a law about everything, in fact, I feel our Government treats us like children as it is. Nonetheless, no child deserves to have their face ruined by a breed of dog that we know routinely attacks. We have a responsibility to the children. JMO SueT ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================