[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Simply Amazing forechests....

  • From: Lindenhill German Shepherds <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC)

Thanks Carolyn, a great post to build on 
So this is where I differ from that opinion, I do feel that if the shoulder is 
too far forward, exhibiting little or no forechest(forchest, fourchest, 4chest 
- ;-) ) it will affect the balance, since the center of gravity is now moved 
backwards in relation to the leg and shoulder changing the cantilever point and 
perhaps resulting in a lifting of the forehand particularly if coupled with a 
straight shoulder. 

regards, and would love to get you feedback 

M 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:19:00 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: Simply Amazing forechests.... 


Hi Mike; 
I meant to respond to your post........but got lost in the flurry of other 
responses over the weekend 
and ended up deleting all the posts.......therefore depending on a pretty 
pitiful memory!! 
I can tell you that I like things "simplified"......so I refer to it as 
"forechest"......<G>....and since it has 
absolutely nothing to do with the movement of the dog there is no 'specified' 
measurement 
of it that I know of.....other than "showing ahead of the shoulder in profile" 
and it should be deep 
and capacious....... 
As Goldbecker explained it ......the "purpose" of the forechest is for the 
herding dog gaiting through 
weeds and small low brush to catch the brunt of the constant chafing.......and 
simply for the beautiful 
balanced outline and appearance of our Breed, as I understand it. 
Beautiful forechest is a nice addition in beautiful type in it's "appearance" 
on our GSD....but especially 
on a nice 'stallion' male. Too much and a dog can appear and be "overloaded' 
and clumsy. In my 
opinion it has absolutely nothing to do with the angle of the shoulder nor the 
front extension of a 
correct shoulder. 


Thanks for trying to actually open up a discussion about THE DOGS!!! Hang in 
there......... 


Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
www.Marhaven.com 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lindenhill German Shepherds To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, 
February 22, 2010 11:02 AM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Simply Amazing 

As I often do, I recently posted a subject on the list to instigate a 
discussion on certain aspects of structure of our beloved breed. Expecting a 
lively educational and informative discussion(some of which I got) I was not 
disappointed., unfortunately the object of that discussion turned into a who's 
resource for a given term was correct or not. I tried to steer the discussion 
back to the topic but what was quite surprised by the pasion displayed by those 
list members focused on the correct spelling debate. 
My disappointment is that many of those who engaged in that debate, I had held 
in high regard, I say to you - please do some self examination(as will I) on 
your motives and attitude as well as your communication style. It is very easy 
to get out of hand on a limitted communication medium such as this and does 
little to suggest how your mentoring is beneficial to others. 

If the list has truly devolved to that level, it offers both me as an 
experienced breeder nor the new comer little if any hope of learning anything 
of value here. 

I suggest that If you have a suggestion or a correction for someones post, 
please, as a matter of etiquette I suggest you address it privately and allow 
them to make(or not) a correction. 

My days here are numbered, 

Regards, 

M 





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