The first comment about this had nothing to do with solicitation for studs or garnering ROM's or promotion of a line or studs......or as one post said.......garnering "suckers" and self promotion. <G> It was a simple comment mentioning the fact that it would be nice to see at least the sire and dam of a dog.....and even bit of. pedigree if possible. If a gorgeous animal is advertised that Is sired by one of our dogs or out of one of our bitches or even one that we bred.........I truly appreciate the person running the Ad mentioning those dogs!! Anyone that has bred or owned or judged a nice dog ....or a top dog of ANY venue ....knows that a lot of work by the breeder, or owner, or exhibitor or trainer brought about the fine results. It's just nice to have those dogs mentioned....<G> Often the sire, or dam , or both, are lying out on someone's lawn or at our feet as we read the Ads ....and who ever gets tired of seeing their much loved dog's name mentioned? <G> It was just a nice comment or suggestion ......... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx ; stjamesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:11 AMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September Review/Paula's dog I have to say I agree w/ Paula on this one. There are a dozen reasons to place an ad. Not everyone is looking to solicit bitches for a stud dog. (Gasp!) I know in the past I've put something in when a dog/bitch has finished and/or for a popular stud, to highlight progeny and/or in the performance edition and/or to say "thanks" to a handler/team/judges and/or when a dog has passed. (These days I send extra to rescue for the later). The issue before the national is a big one because people want to create a buzz for the national. That's fine. For anybody that wants 4-generation pedigrees, they're on line. If someone is interested in a particular line, what's 5 minutes spent on line??? Come to think of it, I don't even have 4 generation pedigrees on my web page. Why???? Because I'm not soliciting something for the boys to do! Guess what? For all of you who want to...God bless you...not everybody does, lol. And in the meantime, I'm not sure it's the job of someone who wants to brag on a dog to spoon feed info. In fact, I don't even keep old magazines. I'm not one for clutter and when there is a record of something right at my fingertips, why would I want to keep something that needs dusting? Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 9/19/2009 1:19:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have an idea!! I will put a twenty page ad in the Review with Harley's pedigree going all the way back to Horand von Grafrath S.V. 1 (he has quite a few lines back to him) and all you sweet, wonderful, supportive critics can pay the bill!! Is color ok, or is that too expensive for ya'll??? I'll have Susan call you for your credit card numbers, ok?? Paula, 24 days and counting ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda H. <stjamesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx>, <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: September ReviewDate: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:52:26 -0400 I agree with your comments on this thread. It used to take me a long time to go through my Reviews from the 80's. I enjoyed the smaller format, too. The newer ones today are pretty but just don't have much to them. I showed one to a friend recently who used to be a member and she was shocked at the thinness of it! Linda Hendrix St. James Shepherds Lin Chi Tibetan Spaniels Goose Creek, SC > From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx> > Re: September Review> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > wow.> > been reading this thread with interest and have to agree 110% with ann. > granted, reciting or regurgitating pedigrees without understanding them is > useless. BUT, if you have been a breeder, if you currently breed, if you > think about breeding in the future, there is nothing more important than the > pedigree.> > i, too, miss the old reviews. they seem to have been geared more toward > the breeder/exhibitor and had more "meat" to them. today's review is very > pretty but lacks substance. how many of you remember when the review was at > least a week's project ... reading, studying, etc.? sad to say, it isn't > much more than a 15 minute break now. > jmo, > diane > > Diane Silver-Strasser> Silstra German Shepherds > http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com > > In a message dated 9/18/2009 7:53:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > Not to me. I could care less. It serves me no purpose whatsoever. I > doubt that I am alone. > > I am not going to pay good, devalued US currency to appease a few people's > curiosity when they can spend a few minutes of their own perceived > valuable time and get all the info that their little hearts desire, whether to > denigrate other dogs or not. > > In the "old days," the Review printed a dog's pic and pedigree for free > when the dog finished. If the GSDCA doesn't care to support exhibitors in > that small way anymore, why should I support breeders?? > > Paula, 24 days and counting > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:19:54 +0000 (UTC) > From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: September Review > > Paula, > > Pedigrees are everything. > > Ann > www.edangsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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