Isn't it interesting that it was the Pug who made contact while the pit bullish dog did not? The sad thing is that when that Pug actually breaks skin on the next guy, it doubtfully would be reported- what "damage" can a Pug do to someone really? (Let's hope the victim isn't a child getting bitten in the face, or mentally & physically scarred for life :( ) Unfortunately, it is lackadaisical ownership that leads to those breed-bans so popular these days- and not just for pit bulls! (Heck- my town had a GSDs ban from someone's roaming dogs who finally did damage to a bicyclist-- until I came here to live- it wouldn't fly that "GSDs are vicious and biters" when 2 of mine were doing the READ program in school; #3 is a service dog and he flirts with the gals at the grocery, so #4&5 are "pets only" and on the 2 miles my road is only one house doesn't have at least 1 GSD- at least a dozen amongst us! They quickly removed the "no GSDs" policy give thanks!) I strongly dislike having to go outside of "self-policing", but there are those times where going to "the" authorities is warranted. That said, has anyone spoken with these neighbors about their roaming dogs? It sounds as if they are chronic offenders at letting them roam-- if being neighborly doesn't work, call animal control. If their owners don't have even enough concern to prevent their animals being dead from a HBC, they're better off living with a new owner IMHO. I found as an ACO that if someone (even us as workers) were decent enough to give the owner warning about their roaming dogs (especially when they cause problems while out), and the person gave two craps about their dog/dogs they would make good efforts to keep them in or go get a dog trolley so the dog wasn't tied to a tree if they didn't have a secure yard. Those who let their dogs keep running? We'd be back and get the dog or dogs and bring them in, call the owners, and they'd never show. That technically, they were "strays", we'd have to keep them for the week while they waited for their owner never to come.. If they didn't come in the first 24 hours, they weren't coming- as boarding adds up! To look at this differently, think of what's best for those dogs... What life would those dogs have left at all if they actually bit someone and a bite report was filed? Broken skin isn't mandatory- punctured or ripped clothing or a photo of the action are all evidence of a bite- though actual flesh contact wasn't made, the intent was obviously there. I just worry for those poor souls who don't have anyone to defend & protect them. I wouldn't feel bad if I did the right thing (starting with my neighbor of course) and these two dogs ended up living better because of it- with their current owners or with new ones. I hope they are inside while y'all take your walks! Or at least somewhere else where you are not! Wouldn't it be wonderful if training was mandatory for dog ownership? Jen P & the Pack glad to my front door behind a gate so no "accidents" can happen if someone slips out on a guest or they open the doors themselves when I forget to lock the inner one JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/Proud K911 www.jaydeesphs.com Committed to the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!! AKC Breeder of Merit > On Feb 27, 2014, at 13:40, "Kathy Partch" <jokaysedona@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > About a week ago I was attacked by a Pit Bull and Pug while walking my GSD > Koda. I was just approaching my street from a very nice relaxing walk when > the Pit came charging towards us. My heart stopped for the moment because > there was no warning. I yelled "NO!" which meant nothing to this charging > dog. I immediately kicked into survival mode. I actually fought the dog off > three times he came at us with my walking stick until he left with his tail > tucked. I consider myself extremely lucky that day. The Pug went behind me & > grabbed my pants leg. But I could see at the very moment the Pit was going > after Koda not me. I kept Koda close to my side telling him to "leave it!" > which he did. There's much more to this story after I contacted the police & > dogcatcher I'll not go in to. It was upsetting because this Pit that only > lives a few houses from me has been running the streets off & on for months. > How many times does it take before there's a real strategy? > > > We have names for the objects & forms in our environment. We also attach > meanings & interpretations to them. We "know" how things are. This habit can > usher us into a state of boredom & into taking a "ho-hum" approach to our > surroundings or always being in a state of what could be around the > corner... > > > > Seeing Without Interpretation -- while walking my dog this morning I thought > about the Pit once again as I came to the corner where he attacked us. I > then thought one more time in how lucky I was that day to save myself & my > dog from harm. I'm now trying to practice seeing anew. I want to have my > walks enjoyable with my dogs. I looked at my environment this morning &, > instead of interpreting or labeling, I dropped my expectations. I stopped > knowing how sunlight or shadows behave, what the breeze feels like, or how > the birds sound. I experienced a newly felt sense of appreciation, awe, & > wonder! Everything came alive with a pulsing, vibrating energy. > > > > How often do you look at things with new eyes, as if seeing them for the > first time? > > > > For just a few minutes a day, practice looking at objects in your > environment without interpreting or labeling them. Drop all prior > perceptions & opinions for that couch that you had labeled "ugly," or for > your neighbor's barking or running dog that you call "a nuisance." Just for > a few moments, practice seeing them without those labels. Do the same with > simple objects, like the glass sitting on your kitchen counter. > > > > Carry this practice into your relationships. Listen without jumping to > conclusions or interpretations. Determine to stop categorizing & labeling > others according to their past actions or your beliefs about them. > > > > You will free your environment & the people in it to show up differently, & > you release yourself to joy! > > > > In gratitude, Kathy Partch www.JoKaySedona.com <http://www.jokaysedona.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===========================================================================> > POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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