In a message dated 2/3/2007 10:22:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cyndyinseattle@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Hi Kathy, Actually, the rule change was only about endorsers and that would not have made a difference. Don't you think his handler and breeder, who are both GSDCA members, would have endorsed him? I do. That's why I mentioned the bylaw change as well in my response. We have a lot of doors open to change the application/renewal process. In no particular order we can - -put a disclaimer on the application, something to the effect that the signer agrees to indemnify and hold harmless (fill in the blanks w/ legal-ease) - agrees to abide by the (soon to be) Code of Ethics -we can put verbiage in the bylaws stating that no member shall be involved in (fill in the blanks) I've read some excellent ideas this week Cindy and quite honestly, I'm not all that concerned with what other clubs think. I don't need a "response", like I've said, IF anyone were to bring it up, I'd suggest they have a look at there own application, bylaws or however they determine their membership structure to be sure they too aren't exposed. (Actually, no one has brought it up.) I know I'm not worried about John Q Public. For sure the majority don't understand the alphabet soup of endorsements. I'm through "awfulizing" about this. "We" made mistakes, we'll learn from them and I've chosen to move on. In fact, if you feel the need for a statement, there you have it. "We've made mistakes, we'll learn from them and we're in the process of correcting them". Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================