Peggy, tell us what you really think <grin> Ann www.edangsd,com Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:OK, let's start with this. This is serious stuff, this NIS. This list is about North American German Shepherds, not Iraq, or any other world problem. And, it's time to speak plainly. Nobody said anything against Lanalee personally. It's the product that's so awful. I believe the comment is directed at the drawings and at the individual who drew them, and to a lesser extent, to the wording of much of what's in this heap of nonsense. If Lanalee can't see that the drawings don't describe our best dogs, then maybe you can direct the comment at her and at her committee, but I believe what is getting everyone's knickers in a twist is the ridiculous drawings. In the first place, the person doing the drawings is very much against the style of dog wanted in the North American show ring. I find it difficult to believe that there is no one else around who will draw the right style of dog. Perhaps there is a problem getting someone to work for nothing? I say that with only half serious thought...I have been told that the artist was not to be paid. Perhaps that is untrue. In any case, having drawings done by someone who states plainly on her own website that the American style show German Shepherd is useless except as a pure pet should, all on its own, have prevented the committee from using this person's work. What, after all, is the purpose of the Illustrated Standard? One of the MAIN reasons any club publishes an IS is as an educational tool for would be and new judges of the breed...at AKC shows--not at Sieger shows, or WDA shows, or any other shows...just AKC shows! The drawings in this article are not the kind of dogs anyone I know wants to breed or to show. If they want that kind of dog they don't want to win in the AKC...it's as simple as that. Spending thousands of dollars to promote a dog no serious breeder would keep seems to me (and obviously to many others) to be a dirty great waste of money. I guarantee you that if you take these ridiculous drawings to any (and I do mean any) person coming new to the breed and then take him/her to a specialty show, he or she is going to think you are crazy. The pictures show one thing and everybody's breeding and showing something else. How stupid is that? In addition, 99 out of 100 specialty judges would puke at any dogs who look like those drawings. If they didn't, they wouldn't get to judge more than once, maybe twice. If it's true that this IS represents someone's best efforts, then Sandra is right...somebody else needs a chance to do it right. This one needs to be scrapped and very speedily thrown into the circular file. If it took hundreds of hours, they were wasted hours...that's it in a nutshell. Peggy ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: > It is unfortunate it was stated that way. Lanalee has been working hard on >the new Illustrated Standard. Hundreds of hours have gone into it, and there >can be no question to her dedication to our breed. > >While you may not agree with the current product, it should not in any way >be any implication that those who have dedicated so much to it, did anything >less than their best efforts. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================