The term, or name, PANDA GSD is merely great "marketing skills" in my opinion. Someone got a lot of white on a black and tan GSD litter, and instead of correcting the problem bred INTO the problem and developed new marketing skills and supposedly yet another "rare" GSD color was born!! <G> In other words......"PANDA" is a term for marketing only. ( This color used to be called Piebald in horses .. ) You CAN still get a lot of white on some current show lines to this day if one is not careful. Usually starts showing up with white feet........then white up the leg.....stripes on the face....etc. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: DPiagentin@xxxxxxx Now I know I have been in GS toooooo long, have heard everything that can be said, this a new to me, so What is a Panda GS? and why would it be registered with the AKC, do we have a new designer dog. I have heard of Panda bears, and Panda was short for Pandora. but Panda GS. enlighten me, this really makes me chuckle. Diane I received a e-mail from a girl who wanted advice about getting a PANDA GS pup and she asked me about the colors of the GS and if AKC recognizes a Panda GS. The breeder told her the parents are AKC reg. and the pups would be too?? I would like to answer her, but I wasn't sure, I thought Panda's are NOT recognized by AKC? What color would they register them as if they are? Does anyone know? Here are some of the colors listed on the breeders web site: _http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm_ (http://www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors.htm) This girl sent me pics of the pup she is getting, if anyone wants to see. To me it is marked like a Bernese Moutain dog and not sure what the the body and head look like :-( Thanks, ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================