Norma asks"HOW MANY FOLKS REMEMBER WHEN THERE WAS "NO" Herding Group? My one and only placement in the Working Group was a Group 2 in 1969 or 1970 with a German Import under Gerhardt Plager. We went winners dog and BOB under Plager and he was doing the Working Group that evening. The dog was a Bernd v. Lierberg son "Mentor vom Tollenstrand". He was our first Champion. What a thrill. D.D. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================