In a message dated 8/8/05 9:09:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Good answer! We all need to reread the standard from time to time! Ok then how about very serious faults? 3 or 4? withhold a ribbon? Ah, but then can it be a decent shepherd? I can think of a few faults that I would consider serious that would still allow a dog to get a ribbon. But, that's just me. (light eyes, short tail, rough coat, insufficient stop on the head). But, then again, maybe those are not serious to me. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================