----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Show List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:16 PM > I don't know much concret stuff about bloat. Unfortunately I had a mother and a daughter bloat at almost the same age--they were both going on 14. The daughter, Ch. Kid, I guess you could say had stress in her younger days when she was shown to her championship by Henry and stayed in his kennel. When she came home she lived the life of a house dog, as did her mother. The fact that they bloated when they did leads me to believe that there was a genetic predispositon to it--they were going to die of ************************************************ My opinion on older dog's bloating is that the age and condition, are factors. Particularly with brood bitches, by the time they are 12 or older their underline is loose, and it usually swings and sways. Add stress to that age factor and a soft under line...and it is more liekly to happen. Two of my ROM bitches bloated, between 12 and 13, and in each case there was also an additonal stress factor. To the best of my knowledge non of their progeny bloated. Beryl Eshom Arelee GSD Davis,CA ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================