I think the problem is you are thinking maybe 10 dogs in a kennel. Try thinking 100 breeding animals in a kennel. I would not want to try to keep up with the shavings changing with that many dogs. :0) Terry sheila lieberman <dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I know I know, let's raise our dogs in padded cells with a horse walker for excersice twice a day!!!! This is too restrictive in terms of how the dogs are to live. Dogs want to live on grass or hay or wood chips or something. And if it all has to be disinfected all the time, how do they build any immunity to anything? The moment a dog from this type of facility gets into the real world they will catch something that will either be expensive to bring them through or worse, kill them right off. Dogs need to live in the real world. Having a limit of 100 is 'nice" but not what we need. And proper care can be determined without being sterile. sheila Laurie Pruett wrote: DRAFT PROPOSED PUPPY MILL LAWS Kennels/Housing No more that 100 dogs capable of breeding No kennel can sell more than 100 individuals or 20+ litters a year Graduated kennel license fee (ie 0-25 animals; 25-50; 50-75; 75-100) Kennels must be equipped with smoke detectors and fire extinguishers. Animals must have adequate cage size (USDA standards) and kennels must have adequate exercise areas for the number of dogs they have. Kennels must have proper shelter, temp control, ventilation, air movement, lighting, bedding, sanitation, slope of ground, and run and footing materials. Animals must get out of cages at least twice per day for exercise. Must have adequate staff to take care of animals-for example, one person full time per 20 animals. No use of wire flooring Must have materials standard-no wood or organic materials for walls or floors. Walls and floors must be made of materials that can be disinfected. Bowls, beds, etc, should be removable and made of materials that can be disinfected. Every licensed facility must have a documented disaster planning and evacuation plans. Every licensed facility must have a written disease control program designed in conjunction with their veterinarian. Every licensed facility must have a documented kennel management plan. Dogs/Health Stud dogs should not be bred prior to one (1) year of age and should be in good health and free of communicable diseases, hereditary defects, brucellosis, heartworms and other parasites. The animal should appear to be in good health, with healthy eyes, ears, coat and should be on a heartworm preventative and checked three or four times a year for internal parasites. Female dogs should be at least 18 months of age, in good health and free of communicable diseases, hereditary defects, brucellosis, heartworms and other parasites. The animal should appear to be in good health, with healthy eyes, ears, coat and should be on a heartworm preventative and checked three or four times a year for internal parasites. Dogs must not be bred every heat-they can be bred only once a year,a nd must be in adequate body condition prior to breeding. Or (as an alternative) No female dog should be bred more than once a year without first obtaining veterinary certification that such breeding is medically appropriate, nor prior to one and a half years of age, nor after eight years of age without veterinary certification. Dogs must have a veterinarian of record that the breeder uses regularly. All dogs must be examined by a vet, and vaccinated by them prior to a sale. Dogs must be examined by veterinarians within five days of being offered for sale, and at 15-day intervals thereafter. No dog with a congenital defect can be bred. If a dog produces two or more puppies with the same congenital defect, it can no longer be used for breeding. Dogs exhibiting abnormal behavior (cage stress related) must be retired from breeding. Only licensed veterinarians can dock dog?s ears/tails. Only licensed veterinarians can spay/neuter. Informed Consumer At the time of sale, breeder must furnish records to each buyer of all shots and wormings, pedigree and AKC registration or transfer documents (if applicable), unless written agreement is made at time of sale that papers are being withheld. All services and sales agreements shall be mutually agreed upon, stated in writing and signed by all parties involved, including all adjustments, replacements conditions, etc. The sales agreement shall clearly state the following: Name all of the sellers and all of the buyers and their addresses and phone numbers. Name, address, and phone number of attending veterinarian. Dates and descriptions of immunizations and other medical procedures. Description of conditions relating to the care of the animal by the buyer, including shots, heartworm and cleanliness. Seller must provide dog purchasers with proof that puppy was examined by an independent licensed veterinarian at least 15 days before the sale. If the puppy has not been checked within the last 15 days, the animal can be rechecked within 72 hours of delivery to the purchaser. Provide consumers 14 days to have any clinical illness diagnosed and reported to seller and state. Seller must offer a full refund, replacement dog or agree to pay as much as twice that purchase price of the dog if the animal, within six months, is diagnosed with a congenital or hereditary defect. Seller must provide every dog purchaser with true and accurate documentation about the puppy?s purebred status, age and registration eligibility. Seller must provide method for consumers to contact the seller to register complaints or discuss problems with the puppies purchased. The print media must not print an ad for the sale of canine/feline without also publishing its vendor number. Create an ethical and humane breeding standard and certification program. Those breeders who choose to engage in the voluntary program and meet the standards would be allowed to sell their animals with the certification and give consumers a method to identify both those breeders and animals bred by them. Pet Stores Pet shops must post on each dog?s cage indicating the name and address of the location where the dog was bred or brokered. In addition they should include where acquired by the pet store. Pet stores must post consumer notice signs near the cages of the dogs that describe the dogs? veterinarian treatments and dates. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. 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