I have to side with Laura and Randy rationale, though I am not leaving the GSDCA, nor the show rings, yet. One can only bang one's head against the wall for so long. These "elite lifer's" should have the GSDCA drop out of the AKC and run this breed like the SV. The membership seems to really prefer having one "breed warden" (the National judge) to tell them who is "great" and who should be bred to. Who needs AKC champions when one can have VA, aka: Select, dogs? Randy hits the nail on the head in his second sentence. Paula, 35 year member of the GSDCA, 341 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, AKC JAM/AOE, Intern'l & Am CH, Silver Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid),.1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee. 2010-2011-Lifetime AKC Eukanuba invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Lifers-Long Yes Evan you are probably the only one that sees humor in this. What I see is frustration! It's not about taking my ball and going home. It's about not being able to play. It's about being disenfranchised and made to feel unimportant by the good ole boys who run the game. I remember some years ago there was dissatisfaction with the food and entertainment and the way the Victory Party was being run. Most of my life has been in the food,beverage and entertainment business so I decided to offer my services to assist in the problem by contacting the person in charge of the event. I am still waiting for someone to call me back. That was years ago, and I have never tried to assist again. Please don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining. I have tried for years to run for a position to judge the National. I gave up! There are some who don't want new blood in their sand box. I have been told by many that there was a concerted effort by some to prevent me from ever doing a National. I could name names, but I will not. Unless you go to the right cocktail parties and kiss the right asses you will never be able to contribute. I choose not to do that! So I am with Laura, Lee and many others, I AM DONE. It's a shame that you make light of Laura's frustration in you words. If she is one of your favorite people, I would hate to be one of your least favorites. You are a nice guy, quit trying to defend the good ole boys. There will come a day when these people will be the only ones left. Then they can judge their own dogs and destroy this breed and this sport by their selfish elitist attitude. Give you an example- I was very discouraged and disappointed with the poor quality of the streaming video at the beginning of this years National so I wrote to Lana Lee (who wanted input) and expressed my displeasure. I knew it could be done better, and believed I had wasted my money. Her reply, in essence, was next year you should do it yourself. Nice answer was it not? As it turned out it was fixed. Maybe the right person complained and got her attention. Who the hell do these people think they are? I rest my case. Have a nice day, Randy C. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================