* * On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 8:26 AM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I do wonder about dog that people say their entries are 1/8th German and > you would never know it. If you never know it, or have bred out what the > German breeding did, why even do it? > >>>>>>>>> LOL Evan, I believe what Ken was trying to say is that "Triumph' has none of the potential negative issues you raised (that we haven''t seen in outcrosses anyway) like a "roach" back or short neck . He DOES have many of the positives from the German dogs, beautiful bone, GORGEOUS head and expression, without being coarse...(we see that sometimes in the American show ring , dogs that mistakenly called masculine when all they really are , are coarse.) He has beautiful front length of neck, croup, etc....with all that we also opened up the gene pool a bit. He got the good stuff, without any of the stuff people are afraid they will get with an outcross...and that as they say "ain't no bad deal" lol. We also are VERY excited about our Italian boy, "Kappo" full import lines, but long neck, lovely front , beautiful back, tons of coat, gorgeous head, and spotless character and temperament. He is only getting started at just now one year old. He is a hoot...it should be very interesting to breed him to both import and American lines.. Personally, we like a GOOD dog, doesn't matter from whence it came... Greatest breed in the world, regardless of origin. Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================