In a message dated 12/8/11 5:59:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: YES you can owner handle and YES you can win BUT you cannot expect to go out there and win if you show your dog terrible I will add one more thing. Just an owner handler is not going to get it. You have to have a good dog. For years I did not win a point. I watched, copied and learned. Finally I had a better dog/bitch, (Dragon-slayer and Destiny), and started to win. I won a lot, finished a number of dogs, showed to Select a couple of times, and then I got old. Now I have found a nine year old girl who is going to handle my dogs. It is fun for me again, and she is enjoying it. So far she has pointed my new male and might even finish her first champion. It is not so much the handler, as the quality of the entry. Never lose sight of the fact that a great dog will win no matter who is on the lead. A good dog can win with a good handler. A poor dog will seldom win, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Winning is how you keep score. The better the dog the more you will win. But to have fun and enjoy the sport, it is your attitude, your approach and the friends you make. Winning is just one part of it. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================