Please don't bite my head off! I would like to suggest that the herding trials that determine who the Herding Victor/Victrix is be held before the Nationals in a place that can accommodate all courses. The person who owns the animal that becomes Herding Victor/Victrix can opt to receive the trophy at the trial or at the National. It might help to shorten the National some. Also, would it be possible to have a ready ring for conformation. The ring would be used by the steward to check in the next class. Owners or helpers could have the dogs in the ready ring while the handlers are showing. It took time after the classes were judged in Concord for the stewards to check dogs in because the same ring was being used. It would help to eliminate down time. Diane --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================