Dee= You should have immediately reported that incident to the Show Secretary. At least that would have stopped the intended winner from winning. We should not ignore blatant misconduct at our shows. Complaining to the proper authorities "might" stop these dishonest actions. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: dlauffer@xxxxxxxxxxx To: cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Hard to believe!!!!! Well, I personally heard it. The thing about being a 'newbie' is that no one knows you and your pretty invisible even when standing close by. It's amazing to me what I've over heard people say. AND, this particular judge is quite well known and still judges frequently. It's not a matter of people talking to one another and having a good time enjoying each others company. That's different. It's when the conversation becomes what dog will win and why, I have a huge problem with that. I won't show in front of that judge again. I didn't have a dog entered that day so it didn't affect me personally. I did have a bitch entered, and had to wonder if that was already discussed. In the long run it affects you whether you have a dog entered or not. It affects the sport as a whole. People SHOULD be able to talk and have a good time, I'm not saying judges shouldn't be allowed to talk and have an enjoyable day. What I'm saying is we (as a group) shouldn't be so blind to believe that this stuff doesn't occur. IT DOES! There has been all this conversation about what is wrong with this sport. I'm giving you a personal example of what's wrong with it! If you choose not to believe it that's fine. However, I now wonder about every judge I show under, and why wouldn't I? But, I try to believe that most people are basically good and until I personally know something different about someone I will always give them the benefit of doubt. Dee ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================