In a message dated 8/10/2005 9:14:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ArDeJay@xxxxxxx writes: OR that dog didn't hear the double handler.........Or that double handler was at the wrong place at the wrong time........... Yes any of those things could do it, or a crate placed too close to ringside, or just the smell of the owners belongs at ringside, can do it too. A lot of times you may be looking at a dog that doesn't like showing, and just wants to go home, lol. Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================