In a message dated 11/27/2007 3:46:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: At a walk the GSD is often being held up and back so he cannot use the front enough to get it out of the way of the "over reach" of the rear that has been discussed....and will PACE to compensate. This is just a walk that is controlled by a handler......and it does not show anything good or bad about the dog's actual gait. In my opinion this ruins the ability to actually judge the dog's gait in any direction .....and IMO just makes the dog out of sync. What's the point?? They can ALL walk .......but being held up and back by a handler in the small ring makes them very frustrated and out of sync. Why would a judge want to see a dog choked back to a walk with a choke chain up under their chin like a Dobie to control them? I'm sure this will start a small war........but it sure seems pointless to me........... Personally, I think every dog should be given an opportunity to show at their individual best speed. I see dogs that have the most beautiful suspension, ruined by judges who insist on "walking", and dogs who are so full of themselves that it takes them 3 times around to settle down........walking them is a total nightmare. I never understood the walking request, but wish more judges would ask, and reward, dogs who can truly move in a lose lead. There is no way to hide a bad dog when they are really doing it "lose". And handlers know that <G>. JMO Ileana **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================