You must drive REALLY REALLY fast, Peggy!! It was OVER 1800 miles (one way) for us to drive from Virginia to the national in Colorado. Even I can't do that in 13 hours :-) Actual driving time is closer to 30 hours....not counting gas stops, rest stops, sleeping, eating, etc. We drove it in 3 days. Drove the first day to somewhere in east IN. The second day to Kansas City. The third day to herding in Colorado. Julie Degen _www.caissonkennels.com_ (http://www.caissonkennels.com/) "A well-balanced German Shepherd has a title on both ends!" In a message dated 9/25/2009 7:44:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Subject: Re: Where you at? Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:52:10 -0400 and from Virginia, the Denver site was a 13 hour drive...that's driving time, not counting stops... Peggy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================