I think there is some confusion when people talk about having the DM test done years ago and that those dogs that were diagnosed free of DM actually came down with DM so today's DM tests are not valid. I did the DM test years ago that was with Dr. Clemmons at the University of Florida as that was the only test available. The two dogs I tested came back as being positive for DM. I put them both on the protocol that Dr. Clemmons recommended as Dr. Goldfarb mentioned in an earlier post. One was put down at 12 and not sure if it was DM or spondylosis but he could not longer get up. The other one died at 12 1/2 at of a sudden burst tumor on her spleen due to a miss diagnosis at an emergency vet. She never showed any signs of DM. I think it has pretty much been determined that the test at the U of F with Dr. Clemmons was not reliable. The current OFA test is not the same as the Clemmons test and I don't think we can say that the Clemmons test didn't prove viable so the OFA one is not viable. I just want to point out that the tests were very different from what I have read. I have tested Strider as he is being used frequently and I do get asked if I have done the test on him. I was happy that he came back clear or normal. What other breeders decide to do regarding the reliability of the test is up to them and how they run their breeding program. I know that many tests do not guarantee that there will be no health issues. I learned that early on when I bred an OFA excellent to an OFA good and clear elbows on both and 3 generations of OFA in the pedigree. Ended up with the pick bitch having bad hips and bad elbows. Right now, the OFA DM test is the only thing we have so I have decided to use it. If something better comes along in the future and I have a stud dog or a breeding bitch I will do that test. I just want to do whatever tests are available as they related to the health of my dogs. What other people choose to do is up to them but don't be critical of those who do choose to run available tests. Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning GCh. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,RE,CDX,CHIC (h,e,h,t) DM Normal "Strider" 83 BOBs - #5 & #6 GSD 2009 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================