In a message dated 11/11/05 2:43:01 PM, Pinehillgsds writes: << when you brush their hair back the wrong way, their undercoat will show some variations. Not on my male...have checked twice...his black saddle is black to the skin. The champion male I showed in the 80's was very black & red...his black was blue black and black to the skin. I always had to hide from him when he was in the ring and I can't tell you how often I would hear people say that he had to have had something on his coat to be that black and that red...but all he every had was shampoo, conditioner and bodifier! The only thing that made him that color were his "genes"! Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================