Wow...no, hadn't heard about the girls but I DO think there are a lot of people who either don't know how to start a boy doing natural breedings (and he has a bad experience and decides not to try) and/or have the patience to start a young dog. I know we have people on the list who occasionally have issues w/ a bitch but the only times I have run into that was when I waited too long (bitch being shown). Life lesson learned... Boys who live here learn to breed a bitch naturally, on my terms (i.e. w/ the bitch over my knee with a MINIMUM of fuss) . I will NOT let a young dog be collected and I don't care if the first (or second) time takes all night. He has 10 minutes and if nothing is happening he and the girl get put away for a bit then we try again. Personally, I have had no luck w/ AIs other than trans-cervical and that includes bitches (2) where we did progesterone using an outside lab. Not a big fan. I wanted to strangle both of the boys lol (am I allowed to say that???) So now I make sure if I go outside to ask the stud dog owner if a boy will reliably breed a bitch naturally. If not, no hard feelings but I'll pass. I really don't have any use for the progesterone kits vets use in-house and much prefer the extra $$$s to send it out and get an accurate reading. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/16/2011 6:56:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx writes: Those who attended the after show program at the VA shows last week heard about the problems, and unfortunately it seems to be becoming a real problem, of breeding in the GSD breed. From males that wont breed naturally, to bitches who, regardless of progesterone and smear results, simply wont swell and cant be bred other than artificially, to breeders who have absolutely no luck with Artificial Insemination. I am curious to hear how many are experiencing this. According to Helen Gleason, a top reproductive specialist told her that well over 70% of the breeding stock is suffering from one issue or the other. Comments? * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : DEXTER, aka BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, DM normal JACKIE, aka Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================