In a message dated 7/25/2007 9:34:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Until working people concede that ignoring the physical part of the standard is incorrect and conformation people concede that ignoring trainability and character and working ability is incorrect, then neither side is interested in the total dog or the standard for our breed.Christine AMEN!!!!! A well-balanced dog has a title on both ends..... Julie Degen Fort Monroe, VA GSD "Cassie" BC "Radar" GSD "Yankee" _www.caissonkennels.com_ (http://www.caissonkennels.com) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================